And I lean badly. http://www.schwarzenegger.com/fitness/post/picking-the-squat-thats-rght-for-you, https://www.facebook.com/Impervious.Lifter/posts/759918127393941, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UxXPgBSkds, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZewrzojlMQ. You can do it, it's just all about training your muscles to squat in a natural way. http://70sbig.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/squats.jpg, [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (1 child). Squat Form Check, Leaning Too Far Forward? But if you focus on hips back in a downward path, you'll find the bar will go vertically down and you'll be upright. The hips can still move backward to varying degrees causing different amounts of forward lean. It started to look a lot more segmented (aka good morning-esque) near the end of the set however. Goblet squats - sets of 20. Could you please take a look at my squat form. I deloaded and worked on my hip and ankle mobility. Not flexing in this, just to show my torso to leg ratio. This is important to keep in mind, bec… June 4, 2018, 7:09pm #1. Usually the squat-morning is caused by weak quads relative to the lower back, and front squats hit the quads pretty hard. Thread Tools. No Threads That Are Answered by the Wiki, Searching Threads, or Google, Posts Must Be Specific to Physical Fitness and Promote Useful Discussion, Progress Posts Must Be Detailed and Useful, No Questions Related to Injury, Pain, or Any Medical Topic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxuViv9XxTA&list=UUUB1M1NqeFr_wQEqF3sI-bg, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3dTDQRCyZw&list=UUUB1M1NqeFr_wQEqF3sI-bg, Here's a selfie (yes my boxers look silly, but goddamn they're comfy). [–]PogueEthicsRock Climbing 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child). I am 44 and just starting O-lifting lessons here in Singapore. When you correct it, your squat strength is so much better. High bar is a more upright lift where your knees track forward to gain depth; Low Bar is more like a deadlift, where you're knees stay behind the toes, and you gain depth similar to a deadlift with a hip hinge. I know that it is important to go down in squats until your thighs are parallel to the floor. A Low Bar squat can be a lot more demanding than a deadlift, because that parallel position causes interplay with the psoas and the hamstrings that fight against your core. Check the EDIT/update in the main post. I'd be open to hear why you think so, but I'd wager its more likely that you don't know how to low bar squat properly. I suspect I'm not bracing my core well enough; I'll work on that, thank you. Also if you haven't already, look up Alan Thrall on Youtube. What helps me is every time i squat i do mental imagery of myself (and the bar) going vertically down and then everything else about my form ends up being correct. 2 - Hips are tight The further forward you lean with a squat, the more extreme pressure you place on the knees, whereas when you have your lower leg closer to a vertical position, your knee has better leverage and is in a good position to support you. Big difference between the two lifts, do a YouTube or Google search on it, [–]buohuang -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (5 children). The bar is going too far forward when I squat. Leaning forward could also mean you have weak core and quads. A high bar squat is more of a "sitting down" movement than a "sitting back" one. That is really it. Ok, as for the deload - was that too far forward again, or only when i hit a heavy set? View Profile View Forum Posts Member Join Date Oct 2007 Posts 1. A short and sweet guide on how to stop any forward leaning on your squats. Granted the form is a bit different than a back squat as far as the hips and knees are concerned. Do some front squats man. Leaning a bit forward is part of a proper squat. There's like 30 things if could be, but squatting more should fix it ;), [–]YJM 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (3 children). * is this too far forward? Perhaps fatigue? There’s going to be a forward lean in the squat; most people won’t stay completely upright. [–]phrakture❇ Special Snowflake ❇ 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children). I don't feel unstable or anything, but I want to correct this. This should help you with the second one, [–]MitchSorrenstein 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). stats: 5'9" ~210 squat around 275 comfortably, bench 215 and dl 330. Click Here for a one-stop shop of our most important resources. Once you can perform goblet squats without leaning forward, you should be good to try back squats again. Maybe you're trying to get deeper into the hole, but your hips won't let you and therefore you bend at the torso. Honestly, it could be a lot of things. I don't mean the bar moving forward during the lift, i mean the position of my torso with regards to my knees, feet and hips. [–]mHo2Powerlifting[S] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children), Could be it. [–]morris1022 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child), [–]Infinite_NightRunning[S] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children), [–]Fumbles329Olympic Weightlifting 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child). jump to content. Squat my knees going too far forward preventing me from hitting depth. This is a video of me today squatting 360 lbs at 165 bw. Because if you're squatting less than you weigh, and you're not losing balance, this is actually normal. If your knees are out more than your toes you are leaning too much forward. [–]mHo2Powerlifting[S] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children). Discussion in 'Strength & Conditioning Discussion' started by BreezerD**, Feb 20, 2009. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 2948 on r2-app-001b21b77206b7dd6 at 2020-12-21 01:25:39.283369+00:00 running 406fa40 country code: US. Squats are hands down my favorite exercise. I'd need to see a video to really be helpful. I'd strongly suggest that is the issue. (self.Fitness), submitted 6 years ago * by mHo2Powerlifting. They will force you to stay back. Now there are a few ways this can be worked around. I've deloaded so many times on my squat because of inconstant depth (i wear Olympics shoes), i've hit depth a ton much more recently and looking over my videos and the factor i've realized is how far my knees go forward. Could also be core stability - can't keep upright under the weight with the hips bent, so compensates by shifting weight back. That's another problem, though it's slight and I'm hoping if I can sit into a better position it will be easier to rise straight up. You’ll tend to bend your knees to compensate. TimmyCK Level 1 Valued Member. [–]DneBays 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (5 children). “B” group consisted of people with a squat ranked in the top 10, and “C” group consisted of people with a squat ranked outside the top 10. It could be all of the above. JeffseekingV Member Posts: 3,225 Member Member Posts: 3,225 Member. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. I'd been focused on making sure I achieve sufficient depth which I'm finally happy with. [–]mHo2Powerlifting[S] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago* (6 children). Opening up my stance, both wider in feet and letting my knees come out slightly. Thoughts on that? The authors grouped them into three groups. With that said here's a video that counters your opinion in that he states to break with the knees. Or another option if you don't prefer this technique is to get Olympic shoes, which will allow you to sit back father while maintaining a more upright position. It looked a lot like a good morning, especially on that first rep [ie. The diagonal path was pronounced even when I tried 145×5. My questions are as follows: I hope this is the right sub, but here goes: I am weak. It could be improper bracing/not staying tight during the lift. Because many people will say, “Once I get to about 90 percent of my max, I begin to fall forward." “A” group consisted of people whose squat was ranked either first or second for their weight class in the world rankings. Although I do try and keep my chest up. breaking at the hips is bad if it causes you to learn forward. Leaning too far forward on a highbar squat? It could be weak quads and abs. Conclusion. Not a good idea! How do I correct this? This may help you, and the OP -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRMiUtscrHw, [–]Sweaty_PenguinWeightlifting 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children), And your telling me his "knees stay behind the toes". Keep those knees from pushing in. How can I prevent leaning forward while doing squats? Many gym bros claim that this has helped them prevent forward leaning during the back squat. In addition, getting a better low-bar position on my back helped tremendously. Prefect, I'll try that, thanks for the tip. Maybe try lifting your toes off the ground when you squat. Hey, thanks for saying that! Leaning too far forward in the squat. They’re the exercise equivalent of the perfect woman – smart, funny AND beautiful. [–]Impervious_Lifter 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children), https://www.facebook.com/Impervious.Lifter/posts/759918127393941 Many times when doing assessments on clients I see this occurrence, when performing body weight squats people are unable to keep their body upright in the manner that we know to be correct. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: General Posting Guidelines (click for more info): and join one of thousands of communities. Check out the attached videos and tell me what you think? If you’re the type of person who squats with an excessive forward lean then you may be limiting the amount of weight you can ultimately lift. I squat a lot less than you (currently doing sets of 5 at 215) but I was noticing a similar issue with "squatmornings", and I fixed it by incorporating front squats into my routine. Also, how did you come up with your username? In addition, an excessive forward lean can increase the sheer force of your low and mid … Your COM is between your chest and thighs, the bar's COM is in the middle of the bar, and the combined COM is somewhere between the two. [–]Articulated 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child), I just hit 100kg in my squat this week, and back when i started one of the regulars told me "Imagine you're sitting on an invisible toilet". How to fix it? * Can I work a correction into my routine and get out of this if it's bad or should i spend a few weeks solely practicing form at low weight? For high bar, you want to minimize the lean for other reasons, like reducing the moment arm for the load. WITH THAT SAID, during the lift I am performing one smooth movement and not a jerky good morning (though on a heavy set this can happen). For the most part I feel my form is fairly on point (i'm doing mainly highbar back squats) but I can't help but feel like i'm leaning too far forward by just looking at my form. Do you suggest I should try breaking at the hips first during the descent? There are a good amount of different things that can cause this issue, and it can't be pinpointed unless someone can see. [–]BraveryDaveOlympic Weightlifting 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children). The self shot was for a good reference of m torso to leg length, check it out and let me know what you think! How do I correct this? This can be done by widening ones stance and pointing your toes slightly outward. Either it's in line with (NOT PREFERRED) or behind your toes. [–]Infinite_NightRunning[S] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (4 children). Vivek is right about bar positioning. I don't know if it's just that I'm doing back squats less often, but it seems like the front squats are really helping me a lot. Are there any other techniques or cues you'd suggest? When I first started doing them I had some issues with my forearms just with how the bar is held. I had the same problem. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: General Posting Guidelines (click for more info): and join one of thousands of communities. The thing is, I feel very stable throughout the lift — I didn’t realize I was shifting so far forward until I recorded it. First, the bar is supposed to be forward more in Low Bar Squats. WITH THAT SAID, during the lift I am performing one smooth movement and not a jerky good morning (though on a heavy set this can happen). Squats work lower back. popular-all-random-users | AskReddit-news-tifu-funny-todayilearned-pics-aww-worldnews-personalfinance-Jokes-gaming-videos-science-OldSchoolCool-television-movies-mildlyinteresting-explainlikeimfive -Showerthoughts-gifs-TwoXChromosomes-LifeProTips-space-askscience-IAmA-Art … Squat Leaning Forward. 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